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The Fraiser Project

Miniaturist- Preston Poling

In this Episode of 'My Miniature Obsession Podcast" I chat with Preston. He may be a newbie to the Miniature World but you can't tell by looking at his work! His creations are very detailed and mostly all handmade! He started thinking miniatures were all about dollhouses but quickly realized the World of Miniatures is more more than just a Dollhouse. 

He is a huge fan of the Frasier Show; an American television sitcom that was broadcast on NBC for 11 seasons, ending 2004. Preston constructed of a 1/12 scale replica of the apartment seen in the show. The name of his project is known as "The Frasier Project" and can be seen here:

The Best part of Preston's creations is that 100% of the proceeds go to "Ranger's Project", a charity for a local Animal Shelter. Miniatures that make a difference! Love it! 

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Rachel  0:04  Hello friends, and welcome to my miniature obsession podcast. I'm your host, Rachel Karpf. This podcast is about all things miniature, we will explore the world of minis. And all its raw talent, dedication, patience, and the new energy of this art form. hear from miniature hobbyists and professionals from all over the world, we will gain a deeper insight into the creative processes that drive them. We will also explore what their biggest struggles are their most devastating failures, and the most uplifting successes, I hope to encourage and inspire you in your miniature hobby. Because even the ordinary become extraordinary and miniature. Hello, friends, and welcome back to another episode of my miniature obsession podcast. I'm Rachel and I am so glad that you are here with me today and listening. So I want to say thank you for being a listener. I'm very grateful. And I would love to hear from you. So if you want to connect, reach out, let me know how you're liking the podcast. Maybe you would like to be a guest on my podcast or you know, some other miniatures that you feel that would be a great fit. please reach out and let me know. You can always find me at Micdropminiatures.com or you can find me on Instagram and my handle is you guessed it, Mic Drop Miniatures. 

So let's get right into the episode that I'm going to share with you today. I found Preston on social media when I came across this image And I'm like, wait, I know this. Where do I know this from it looks so familiar. And then when I did a little research, I found that he built a miniature replica of the Frasier set. So the apartment member that show it was a sitcom that ran from about 1993 to 2004. And it is, I mean, it's the exact replica of the apartment, he talks about in the episode here, how it went right down to the fabric of the chair, and how he searched so long and hard for that one particular pattern of furniture for that chair. So I can't wait to share this with you. And I hope you enjoy it. And one thing when I was doing this podcast with him, I found that all the proceeds that he makes for the Frazier project goes to a local charity in his hometown of Kentucky, in Kentucky. And so he all the proceeds go to that local animal shelter. And he's calling it Rangers project. So it's so cool that miniatures can really make a difference. And I just love that. You know, it's like miniatures with a purpose who doesn't love that. So to check Preston out, make sure to see him on Facebook. He can find you can search the Frazier project, join his group and see all of his amazing creations. You can also find images of his creations if you're not on Facebook at Mike drop miniatures.com forward slash blog forward slash Frasier project because you're going to want to see some visuals of this for sure his creations there. It's absolutely amazing when he's when he's done. So thank you again for being here. And for taking a listen. And if you love this conversation, I would love if you could snap a pic and share it to your Instagram or Facebook stories. Take me Mic Drop Miniatures and thank you so much for tuning in. And until next time, Happy creating. Bye, guys. 

Hello, How are you today? 

I'm good. How are you? 

Good. So you're calling in from Kentucky? 

Yes, I am. 

Okay, never been there. Maybe someday. I am. I'm from Wisconsin. I'm like 40 minutes from Green Bay. Okay, I was born in Milwaukee. 

Rachel  4:31  Well, thank you again for meeting me. I was trying to think back how I'm like, saw you and I think I saw you from a Facebook group. And when I saw your post, I was like Frasier. I remember that show. Like it brought back. I used to watch that. And then yeah, I didn't realize it as some research that that show ran for 11 seasons. Yeah, a long time. So I have so many questions, but I guess first let's start. Did you make miniatures because of the show? Or did you like miniatures before you flesh it with the show?

Preston  5:12  Um, well, a little bit of both. I'd started off when I was younger with like car models and things like that. Just the kits. And I always enjoyed building those sorts of things. But then I really, really liked the show so much. I was like, I just want to recreate a piece from that show. So I built the fireplace just as kind of like a, just like a bookshelf Prop, you know, just to set it up there because it was an iconic piece. And then it just kind of grew from there. And I ended up building the entire apartment around it. So that was kind of where it started. And why Frasier, do you know why you love it so much is can you pinpoint it, I've just always watched it, I always liked the comedy. The fact that it's, it doesn't talk down to its audience, I always thought was really appealing. They don't have to dumb it down, you either get the jokes, or you don't get the jokes. And I liked the research that went into it, because I didn't always get the jokes. So then I'd have to go and find out what they were talking about or referencing. And it was always kind of like a double laugh once you once you realize what they meant. You're like, Oh, that's why that's funny, you know? Because I started watching it as a teenager. So of course, I didn't pick up on everything.

Rachel  6:24  do you know, can you still watch it? Like friends is still on? I don't know, like certain channels? Or is there any free jet? 

Preston  6:32  They do have reruns from here to the UK on certain channels. And they'll usually do it from from start to finish. And of course it's on. I want to say it's on Amazon on Paramount plus or CDs access one of those two. And then I think it's on Hulu as well.

Rachel  6:54  Okay. Yeah, I really want to watch it again ever since I saw your post. And you're not the only one that doesn't like it because I was looking at your Facebook group to 2400 people you have members in your Facebook group called the Frazier project. So you're not alone in liking this show. There's You know, there's lots of other people out there. And it's so amazing, because I didn't even think there was a following behind this show. But there definitely is. 

Preston  7:22  it holds some records for winning the most Emmys. And at the time, Kelsey Grammer was the highest paid TV actor, so I mean, it. It's, you know, held some awards and things like that. So it's okay.

Rachel  7:35  popular show. Yeah, I would say. So you said the fireplace and then you said you also vase painting. Can you tell me where was that in the scene? On the fireplace?

Preston 7:46  The face painting. It's, it's over behind the piano. Okay. So it's it's kind of going down that wing of the apartment next to the kitchen, between the kitchen and the balcony. It's the shared wall going down that way towards what would be on the set. Daphne's room.

Rachel  8:07  Okay. And then you also said you had a six, six pack of cans, I want to say it's probably beer cans.

Preston  8:13  Yeah, those were my first. So those few things were the first items that I built for the project. And it was, it was really just me experimenting with with new things because I had never done anything like that before. So the beer cans I ended up what I did was I just rolled up paper really, really tight and kept rolling it rolling it and rolling it until it looked like it was about the size of beer cans. And then I painted them gold and printed out tiny labels and painted the top with a silver metallic paint and use my hot glue gun to make like the plastic band that goes around to six pack. And it's like you can tell they're kind of a first the first attempt at making something but I kept them because I thought you know it was kind of cool for you know your first time ever experimenting, that sort of thing?

Rachel  9:10  Yeah. When do you try to go with 1:12 scale? Or do you? How are you with your scale

Preston  9:17  Yeah, everything is is screen matched for accuracy. So I would use the known height of the actors and different things depending on where they would stand. And it's taken lots and lots of research. I mean, I started the project in 2017. And it's not quite finished yet. The I'm hoping to have it wrapped up here in the next probably the next month. And then focusing more on the cafe and the radio station and some other things but yeah, so it's taken a while to screen match all of that stuff. And starting from scratch, you know with with pre built things. Sometimes it's easy to get online and find something you like and you have have a general idea. Like if you're if you're doing a miniature kit or a dollhouse or things like that, you can typically find anything you want online. But when it was custom made for the show, or not mass produced in large quantities where it's so popular that it would translate to the miniature community. So, yes, everything in the project was had to be hand made. And I had no experience making anything from by like that. So it took a while to get the hang of it.

Rachel  10:31  You did amazing. And I know what you mean, because I recreated my grandparents kitchen. So it's not like I could just go out and grab a table. I wanted the table to match my grandparents. So yeah, it's a struggle, for sure. Right? How if you're not if you were so new to it, did you just Google it? Or did you have someone you could go to for advice? Maybe I'm a shop anything? 

Preston  10:54  No, I didn't have any of that stuff available to me at the time. I wasn't. I wasn't a part of that community at all. In fact, I didn't know there was a community to me. miniatures didn't exist at the time it was doll houses where my perspective of what miniatures were. And to me doll houses weren't something I was interested to go into get involved in. And to me, it just, that wasn't where I saw it going. But then I really, I didn't even know that there was a scale. Like, I wasn't even familiar with 112 scale, like, I know it existed. I know that now. But at the time, I just made it up. I'm like, I'm just gonna do everything. What if I did it like one? One half inch equals a foot in real life. And I looked at that, and I'm like, now that's a little small. I bet I could do one inch equals a foot. So I didn't even know that was a thing. I had no idea. I just thought that one inch to one foot was mentally easy for me to to do. I'm like, okay, so I know, one of the actors is six foot tall, that would make him six inches. He's standing next to this piece, boom, I can tell that's eight feet tall, you know? So it's got to be eight inches tall

Rachel  12:00  So the three years? I mean, you learned a lot. And you're amazing at what you do. Like even you posted the chair. I want to bet the dad's chair, right? Like even your upholstery on that was amazing. Like, how did you come? How did you find the material? Now that was that a lot of work to find exactly like that.

Preston  12:23  Anyone who knew what I was building, always asked about the chair, and I just found the fabric for the middle of 2020. So it's not like I had it for a long time. And everybody was always asking, what are you going to do about the chair? What are you going to do about the chair, because it's such an iconic piece that you can't screw it up. And everything else is is very textural. So it's got fabrics, and suedes and things. So I didn't want to put a hard piece in there and paint it to match. I thought that that would really stand out. So I looked for years for fabrics ordering different samples from different places. In fact, I even resorted to trying to weave my own fabric with needlepoint thread. So I got canvas and one of those hoops, and I love my own fabric. And it just is still I got the colors, right. But it just the pattern wasn't looking exactly how I wanted. And then I found this vintage fabric that I've got. And it was very expensive fabric, it was like $120 a yard. And you don't need much right? Didn't need much. So it was very expensive fabric, but I got it and I found it. And I'm like this is this is going to be it because the other thing you don't think about is the actual chair in real life, those stripes were probably an inch or two wide. So even if the even if the production company said, Hey, here's a swatch of the original fabric. That would be super cool, but you couldn't use it. Because on a two inch wide chair, you'd only have two stripes. So you had to find something that was not only the right color and texture, but also had tiny, tiny stripes. So it was it was I found it online through a company that that specializes in vintage fabrics, and I ordered it directly from Paris. Oh, wow. Yeah.

Rachel  14:21  Well, it looks amazing, for sure. I loved it. So I have to ask, so do you. I know how many times I go watch the show, like the whole series. Do you know like,

Preston  14:32  Oh, well, I've probably watched the series through maybe 20 times 20 times is this usually turned on at night and just let five or six episodes just run through until I fall asleep and then I'll pick up the next night where I left off. And I do that with a couple of shows. I do that with the office. I do that with some of the other ones. So it's not just that it's kind of whatever I'm in the mood for the office. Be cool to recreate Yeah, I had thought about that I had, I'd built a couple of little test pieces for that. And, you know, it would, it would make sense to do my next piece based on the popularity of the show. So like, obviously, Frasier wasn't the best starting point, if I was looking for likes and hits and shares and all this, I couldn't want friends, right, or the office, or, you know, something that's just crazy popular. But I knew if I was gonna stick to it, it had to be something that was really, you know, that I really held near and dear. So that's why I started with that.

Rachel  15:34  Yeah, cuz then for sure you want to finish it? But I asked the question. So is it like the scene burned in your mind? Because I'm a very visual person, especially when I'm making like exact replica. So I'd be like taking pictures of the TV screen, or was there enough on the internet that you could have a visual or did you not even need a visual the same? There wasn't enough on the internet. That was that was very good. Usually what I would do if there was a specific piece I was looking for

Preston  16:04  I would watch it on at the time, it was available on Netflix. So I would watch it then. But then they took it off. When CBS did they're all access and but I would watch it there and I would freeze frame it, and take screenshots of whatever it was that I wanted. And I ended up with a photo album full of screenshots that I had printed off at Walgreens, and put in a photo album, so I wouldn't have to hunt and peck on the computer, I could just flip through it. And I wanted it It started off, I had to be somewhat portable, because I have a workshop that's about an hour from my house. And I would go there on weekends and stuff. And I wanted to be able to take most everything either there or home. But I don't have good signal out there because it's by the lake. And it's kind of out out of ways. So I couldn't just grab my old computer and use the Wi Fi. And so it had to be somewhat portable. So I'd print pictures off. I would sometimes go to Frazier fan club on Facebook and say, Hey, I'm looking for this piece, can anybody find it? And usually there would be people that would find that fun. So they hunt for it and throw a couple pictures my way. So that was kind of how I did it. If it was something I just absolutely couldn't get a good angle on. You know, then you just have to take some artistic liberties and do what you can do with it.

Rachel  17:20  So you even have like the the scene out of his window up the big window. How did you get that photo isn't like exact. Do you think? Is it pretty close?

Preston  17:32  That that photo is a photo? Well, it can be anything because actually what you're seeing back there isn't a picture at all. It's an HP all in one computer. It's a fully functioning computer with mouse. And so I can put any image I want on that I could you know, anything you can do on your computer, I could do with the screen? Because that's what you're seeing. I had originally printed out a picture because I thought oh, that would be cool to have the Seattle skyline there. But to me, my mind is always working on what's even better than what you just thought of how can you just really take it to the next level. And I thought, well, I need to get like a tablet or a TV or something back there. And I thought if I could get a TV I could play like an actual skyline with flashing lights and planes flying by and you know, the real deal. And then I was my wife had replaced her computer. She's she got a new laptop. And she's like, what do you want to do with this old computer? I'm like, Oh my God, that's it. So I cut out that back wall and fixed that computer screen to two there and downloaded a bunch of pictures of the Seattle skyline. And that's where we ended up. It's pretty cool. 

Rachel  18:48  yeah, it makes sense now, because when I watched your video on Facebook the other day, you know, I'm focusing on you. But then in the background was that which I thought was a photo? And I'm like, Wait, did it just move or something now, like I should have maybe reversed it. But I just thought it was a photo How funny in here. It's a

Preston  19:08  screensavers you know, you can download images and put them onto your screen in a folder and have whatever pictures pop up for your screen. So all of my screen savers for that computer are Seattle skyline pictures, different times of the year, different times of the day. So one you'll see a night sky one, you'll see it during the day. So it's it kind of changes as you as you look at it

Rachel  19:34  That's so cool. So if someone came to you and be like, we want to put your creation in a museum, what would you say? Like, no way can't get rid of it? I mean, it's been part of your life for four years and a lot of work. Oh, would you say to that? Um, well, it

Preston 19:49  would depend on the terms, but I would definitely be open to it. So if they were like, hey, do you want to donate this to a museum for like, the rest of its life? Be like, well, I don't know about that. But if they said hey, can we Hold on to this for a few years. Yeah, I would definitely, definitely consider letting it letting it go for sure.

Rachel  20:07  Are you considering putting the actual characters in there? I know,

Preston  20:13  I would, I'm not going to build them. Because I know my limitations. And I know that there's a lot of sculptors out there that, that, that that's their specialty, and they do phenomenal work. And I just, I know that that's not me, I would put them in there, if I could work with one of those sculptors to have the made, the problem is just, they're so expensive. The last time I had it priced, it was around $500 per character. So with five cast members, you know $500

Rachel  20:51  you know, if you're really talented, from what I see, you're pretty talented. You can paint you can sculpting to be next on your list,

Preston  20:59 I would definitely attempt it. It's just, it's intimidating. When you know, there's so many people out there that do such phenomenal work with it, you're like I just leave it to the professionals, you know, but I would definitely try it. I just don't know that I could knock that on the park, you know

Rachel  21:16  would you say most everything is handmade,

Preston  21:20  everything handmade. And there's a couple exceptions to that. And I'll share that with you. So I had a couple of rules. When I first decided that I was going to transition from this bookshelf piece to a full build, I had a couple of rules that I didn't want to bend from. So the first one was that I had to make everything in there by hand, the paintings, the furniture, everything had to be made by hand, I didn't want to just because I felt like laziness would take over. And I would start finding things that were close enough. And I didn't want it to be close enough. But I wanted somebody like me who's a really big fan of the show, to be able to look in there and not be able to find anything that's off. You know, I didn't want someone to walk in and be like, Well, you know, he had wingback chairs and they were beige, not one? Well, that's all I could find at Hobby Lobby. So. So my, my first rule was I just have to make it has to be exact, so I wasn't allowing myself to purchase any premade stuff. The second rule that I had for myself was if I made a piece, and it didn't blow me away, and I wasn't proud enough to show it off to people that I had to remake it. I couldn't just stick it in there and say, well, that's the best I can do. Well, no, you can take it back and do it right. That's the best you can do. You know. So that was my second rule. Now I did bend on the first rule about putting manufactured pieces in once the Frazier project got big on Facebook in 2020. It's only been around since April 2020. That's when I started the group. But it got really big and people really connected with the project. And they wanted to see some of their own pieces in it, they wanted to be a part of the of the project. So they would send me stuff and people in viewers and followers were just sending stuff in. And that was the only time I made exceptions. If If a viewer wanted to send something in that was that was exact, then I would go ahead and include that in there. So we've got the piano that was donated, the telescope was donated, and a lot of the odds and ends you don't see a lot of them in the pictures. Because I usually use them when I'm setting up for a special shot that I'm trying to capture. So some of some of the smaller things that you don't, you don't necessarily see all the time they were donated, but as far as the couch, the chair, the bookshelves, the vase, all of that kind of stuff is all all handmade by me right now. I think the the Eames chair, the piano and the telescope on memory are the only things in it right now that you can see in the pictures. What about the cane? I made the cane. Yeah, I was good. I actually made two canes. I had one really big fan of Frasier and the Frazier project. He had actually purchased it for a little he had hand carved a chair out of a block of wood that matched Martens and he wanted to came to go with it. So he had actually purchased a cane for me so I had made him one as well. And his actually turned out to be a little better than mine because I made my first and I made his with a little more expertise behind it. So mine is actually the and I don't know the technical terms for all the materials that I use. I just grab what works. You know, sometimes I find stuff laying around the house. I'm like, hey, this will work. So Hobby Lobby, these I guess they're plastic. They're about a foot long and they're just like tubing like polypropylene PVC kind of tubing. So that's what my cane is made out of, when I made the one four, and then it's painted to match, and I hand carved out of wood, the handle so that it kind of looked a little foamy. But the one that I made for the customer was actually all made out of bent pan bent aluminum. So it was, it was a little more true to form. And after I made it, I was like, Oh, I need to remake mine. And I will there's just been so much, you know, there's so much to do that. Going back. 

Rachel  25:35  What kind of tools do you have? Do you cut it all by hand? I know you said it a lot about carving wooden things do I know my picture in a Cricut? Do you use that to cut material or?

Preston  25:51  Well, I got that for because it can it can cut smaller pieces of wood, you know, thinner wood. It's the Cricut maker. And I haven't really used it for anything for this particular project. The only thing I've used it for so far was I'm doing a record store as well. It's kind of a 90s era record store that I'm currently building. And I wanted to make some t shirts to go on the wall, just like you would see if you walked it. So I've made some black t shirts to scale. And then I use the Cricut to cut out some band logos to put those on there. But that's that's so far, that's the only thing I've used it for. I've got a 3d printer as well. from Nova 3d, they had actually sponsored the bill for that year. And they sent that to me to us. And I've printed off some pretty cool things that I've designed through tinkercad and stuff like that. So if you look at the cafe Nervosa build, there is a cappuccino machine on the back wall. So most of that I designed and then printed on the 3d printer. And then other pieces I just kind of added based on what I was using, so or what I had available, I would look at the picture and I'm like, Huh, seems to be some sort of coyly deal there. So I would coil a piece of metal and and it you know, it works.

Rachel  27:17 Did you find that 3d printer was huge learning curve, like I didn't want to throw the thing out the window or catch on pretty quickly to it.

Preston  27:26  I did not catch on very quickly. Like, I guess there's something in the settings that you have to really tweak. Now mine's a resin printer. So it's supposed to come straight out of the box calibrated and all that, and it does a great job. And I think it's mainly my fault in the design part. Because I haven't The only thing I've printed that was that someone else had made was the sample print that came with the printer.

Other than that, I've created everything in tinkercad. But some of my details don't show up very well like it, it stops printing, and I lose some of the thing that took me hours to make. And I'm like, darn some of that's gone. So, you know, I know there's some adjustments and some configurations that I have to make in there. But yeah, it's a huge learning curve. And it's one of those things if I sat down and really took, you know, a day or two to really play with these things. And the other problem is it takes so long to do a print if you screw something up on the cricket you know what's a cricket take to the cut its thing out maybe five minutes, 10 minutes. 3d print can take hours.

it can be a pain that a good example of that is the bass that I made for the column just last week. And I'm everyone's gonna think it looks good now until I say what it originally looked like. But I had two more bands around the top of the base, and those didn't print. So only half of one band printed. So I ended up having to close enough. I'm not sure it was it would have been the last piece to print. So it should have just kept going. But I guess the exposure rate just stopped. I'm not really sure why but I ended up carving off that half of a band that it gave me and just use my Dremel and went around it and filed it down and it it looks good now but I would have preferred it with two more bands. But I ended up filling it in with with wood filler. And you know, I ended up just making it by hand. And that's part of why I make stuff by hand because every time I try to do something else and like take something I think is gonna be the easy route. I end up having to make half of it. Like I might as well have just started this, you know,

Rachel 29:50  what I love about miniatures is you get a little bit of everything. You're a painter, you are a carpenter, you know, like woodworker you. It's just there's so many many aspects that go into creating one little scene, which is so cool. What would you think is your most favorite? Do you like working the wood aspects? Maybe not so much a 3d printer? Do you like do you do anything with clay? Really?

Preston  30:13 some of the smaller, like the vase and the truly that I've got next to the fireplace. All of that was sculpted out of clay. I've done a couple of bear clocks. If you remember, there's one episode where they go on the Antiques Roadshow. And then the dad brings a bear clock to have it appraised. And the boys are embarrassed until they find out it's worth a lot of money, which I actually have the original bear clock from the show in my private collection. So I sculpted based on that. And I used to sell those on on Etsy for a while I've got a little Etsy store where I sell things from time to time, and I carved the bear clock out of clay. So I've used used a little bit. I really enjoyed doing the small paintings. I wish there were more of those to do. And sometimes look at some of the ones that I did, and how early on in the project that was. And I'm just like, How the heck did you even do that? I couldn't even read. Did you even read you what you did? Was it like Beginner's luck? yourself lay right? Like that. I even sit down and redo that if somebody was like, hey, I want to buy that exact little tiny picture. I'm like, I don't even know if I could replicate. It was just like Beginner's Luck each time, you know,

Preston  31:41  well, you know, it can be, um, if you use what's available on the market. So I was really unfamiliar with the little miniature dollhouse plug in deals and those tiny, tiny wires that are infinite hairs you're trying to connect. And so I bought the kit because I just wanted to learn so I bought the the kit and the wire and some lights and different things. And I pieced it together and it worked and it was a huge pain in the butt to use to me. So I just went back to just standard wire and those some of some of mine have the clamshell batteries with the watch batteries on it with an on off toggle switch. But I mainly wanted to wear it myself because I couldn't stand the tiny tiny wires. Now for me what I ended up doing that makes it easier. And I still use that now that I learned the trick. I don't know how everybody else does it. But I'll split this the two pieces into the positive and negative wires. And then I'll just use a flame to burn back that plastic. Because that was the hardest part I was trying to strip the layered and with a blade or typical wire cutter muscle forget about it is to fine. It's not going to work. So I burn back. And that works great for me. You've never tried to tape. No, like the paper. I don't have the patience. I don't think for the tape like number one. Stick. That's the first thing I hate things that are supposed to stick that don't stick. Like you put a piece of tape down and keeps curling up. You're like that's you got one job to do. And it's to stick in not doing that. So I can never use the tape before I was afraid I'd get everything stuck and work in in the right order. And then I'd flip that switch and nothing would happen. And I would just be like you with a 3d printer. Just like chuck it like I'm done. 

Yeah, the little wire i think is is kind of the way to go unless you can solder and do your own connections and things like that with bigger wire. But I was always afraid of getting shocked with those with the little wires because you've got that exposed fuse on the strip and I'm you know, if I'm doing electrical work, it's usually around the house and you'll get a little jolt this you could, I mean, I've touched every part of everything on there and I've never felt that thing. So I guess there's just not enough current going through those little faults to feel it.

Rachel  34:50 Until next time. No, I'm just kidding. Okay. So can you tell what is your Etsy store and do you do custom orders so if someone came to you and be like, Maybe not the chair because that would that was a little hard to find the material. But do you do custom pieces? And oh,

Preston 35:07  I've done custom pieces I've done. I've done actually done the fireplace before. Just on a smaller scale. I've done the cane and I actually have a lot of artwork that's for sale that are eight and a half by 11 or 16 by 22. So paintings that I do, they're not all related to Frasier, but they are all related to TV or Hollywood in some way. They're from movies. So I've got I just sold a Dirty Dancing one. I've got pretty woman the mask, I've got different ones on there things that I think people will like really iconic scenes, and I use kind of a negative space, monochromatic imagery in my paintings. But I do custom work as well. So I've had I've had one of the viewers wanted their daughter, their daughter's head on princess lay his body because I guess she does cosplay and that kind of thing. So she wanted that for for her birthday. So I made that for her. So I do some custom work.

It's dollhouse and miniature scene is the name of the magazine. And it's a European magazine. And they had contacted me about doing a feature story in that for June. So I have done the interview and sent in the pictures and all that good stuff. And they just sent me an email last month, saying that it's set for June. So awesome. Do you think they found you on Facebook? or? Yeah, yeah, we've corresponded on Facebook. I think that's pretty cool. Any, you know, all of the one thing I'd like to mention you asked about the Etsy store and the art and stuff. All of the profits that I make from selling the art or any kind of publicity that the project gets the generates more viewers and followers that end up making donations and different things like that. It all goes to support my local animal shelter. So I don't make any profit on my artwork or the popularity of the project. Really, I was I was content for years just making it by myself. And nobody even really knew I was doing it except for a couple close friends. And but then people started asking about it, I'd post a piece here or there on a Frazier fan club. And they'd be like, Oh, my God, I want to see more. And I'm like, there's, there's an opportunity here, when you get that many interested parties and what you're doing, but I didn't feel like I was in a position where I needed to benefit from it monetarily. But I thought it's a great opportunity to raise a little bit of money for my local animal shelter. And so I've started that project, or that that program called Rangers project. And that's on my Facebook page. And our local radio station did a piece on it, and a local paper had it on the cover of the newspaper. And so Rangers is our adopted dog. We got him in February of last year. And you know, he was a little abandoned seven pound will pop. And we adopted him when we were there volunteering. He'd only been in the shelter for a couple of days. And I just scooped him right up. And I looked at the director and I'm like, I'm taking him. I'm just taking him if somebody claims him than they claim him. If not, he's not spending another night in the crate. He's going on with me today. So he did he went home with me. And we've been inseparable ever since he goes with me just about everywhere. But I wanted to use the popularity of what I'm doing to help other other animals in Bullitt County. So we raised the money through the art and through donations. And my wife is responsible for the aspect of determining where it needs to go where the greatest need is, so she participates. And, you know, do it like this weekend, we're doing transport. We're taking a couple of animals to the rescue in Indianapolis. Sometimes, you know, they need medical care, different things like that. It just depends on where the need is at the moment. But she's she's taken charge of allocating all the funds for all that stuff.

Rachel  39:36  Well, what a great cause. And you guys have such big hearts like that's amazing. I appreciate that. Yeah, especially because it takes time to make the miniatures and especially if you do custom orders for people, so that's awesome. I did not know that. I did not know that. So that's awesome. I mean, I know I saw the project on your Facebook page, but so cool.

Preston  39:58  Yeah, that's that's kind of what we do. decided to do with it. Because, you know, really, when you're doing those pieces, you can only, I only feel comfortable charging so much, you know, I'm not going to get crazy with what I charge people. And it's usually never enough to reimburse you for the time that you've spent doing it. So you can either look at every piece as a loss, or you can look at every piece is like, Look, here's $125 or $150, that didn't exist yesterday that now does exist to help feed and buy toys and all this stuff for animals that need it. So that's that's kind of how we chose to look at it a pretty big shelter. It's not a very small shelter. In fact, their their budget was cut for medical care by $25,000 this year. So they just, they rely on a lot of volunteer work a lot of rescues, there's only three or four employees there. They used to work close with the jail, and they'd have an inmate program where they would come in and help and, and they don't have that anymore since COVID. So it's just, they're always struggling, and they're a no kill shelter. And they didn't used to be a no kill shelter, but they are now. And we just want to keep that going. We never want to go back to having a kill shelter in our community ever. So it's our responsibility to make sure that that that doesn't happen. And to do that you need to have the funds available to transport them when they need it to other areas where they may be, you know, certain breeds are a little bit more tolerated or a little more in demand. So that's why we decided to do that it's very small, and relies solely on you know, not solely on donations, but the way the government pays it's pretty much solely on donations, you know, they get the bare minimum.

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